After an initial review of Kaayla Daniel Ph.D.’s report on Green Pasture Products, I felt it necessary to state my current position as a consumer and as a Board member of the Weston A. Price Foundation.
I know it is important to many of you that I weigh in on this issue since it is potentially so upsetting to those who have been using Green Pasture Products and giving them to your children as I have for years.
In this report, Dr. Daniel contends that the Green Pasture’s fermented cod liver oil and butter oil products are rancid and harmful to health. Furthermore, she claims that lab tests show that the fermented cod liver oil isn’t even from cod and is low in the fat-soluble vitamins A, D, and K2.
These are serious accusations indeed and ones that cause alarm coming from a professional as highly qualified as Dr. Daniel.
To give you some background, my relationship with Dr. Daniel began in 2007 when I met her at the annual Wise Traditions conference. I found her to be intelligent and good-humored … with a blog named The Naughty Nutritionist how could you be too serious, right? Over the years she has been a great supporter of the Weston A. Price Foundation’s work, serving on the Board most recently as its Vice President. She has written many articles for the Weston A. Price website and Wise Traditions Journal. Some of her articles appear here on The Healthy Home Economist website.
So, for Dr. Daniel to deliver a lengthy report that calls into question the integrity of one of the most highly regarded producers of nutrient-dense food supplements is a matter to be taken seriously. And I have. And, I can assure you, so has the Foundation.
First of all, let’s look at what we know by way of general background:
- Cod liver oil and butter oil were both used by Dr. Weston A. Price DDS in his research early in the last century and considered nutrient-dense foods high in the fat-soluble activators.
- Green Pastures has been producing and selling cod liver oil and butter oil since at least since 2003 when I was first introduced to the company. The fermented cod liver oil debuted in 2007, and I immediately switched my family to this product which we have been using ever since with stellar results. I know many of you have experienced the same because you have written to me about it.
- Green Pasture Product’s fermented cod liver oil has been tested by two independent labs – one in the USA and in the UK – and found to be free of rancidity while containing valuable nutrients. These tests served as the basis for the WAPF Board deciding in 2014 that claims of rancidity were unfounded.
- Many leaders in the Real Food community, including Foundation President Sally Fallon Morell, have studied these products in detail and toured the facilities (yes, I’m one of those bloggers Dr. Daniel says were given VIP tours – but what Dr. Daniel fails to mention is that I wasn’t even blogging yet at the time of my tour) and have been convinced of their authenticity and quality – to the point we have been using them ourselves and giving them to our children for nearly 9 years with excellent results – always in the proper dosage and never to excess.
- Two different laboratories have found mostly vitamin D2 in Green Pasture Products cod liver oil, and Dave was honest enough to share this surprising information with the public. Also, the extra virgin cod liver oil (Rosita) was found to contain mostly D2 by one of these labs as well. This is something that intrigues the Weston A. Price Foundation Board very much and there are plans in motion already to look into this further.
Secondly, let’s look at what Dr. Daniel claims in her report:
- The report makes damaging claims that the Green Pasture Products are rancid and therefore harmful and these tests were conducted by several unnamed labs using a supposedly superior testing methodology and equipment.
- The fermented cod liver oil contains average to low amounts of fat-soluble vitamins A, D, and K2.
- DNA testing shows that the fermented cod liver oil doesn’t come from cod but from the Alaskan Pollock (considered a member of the cod family).
- The fermented cod liver oil tests for transfats and the most likely way this could happen is via dilution with rancid vegetable oil of some kind.
- The High Vitamin Butter oil may come from Argentina and also tests rancid.
- Vitamin K2 is not what Dr. Price referred to as “Activator X”.
Lastly, here are the initial concerns I have about this report:
- The labs used to run these tests are unnamed with the letterhead blacked out on the actual lab reports. This is highly unorthodox and is a major red flag. There should be complete transparency here. If the lab work is credible and authentic, the lab should be more than willing to put its name behind the data like is done for other scientific research. Dr. Daniel questioned the reputation and methods of the labs that were fully transparent and reported the fermented cod liver oil to be free of rancidity and high in the fat-soluble vitamins, so shouldn’t the labs which claimed they were rancid be closely examined as well? How do we know the tests weren’t run by a rival manufacturer actively seeking to do damage to Mr. Wetzel?
- Dr. Daniel cites Dr. Ron Schmid ND as one of the funding sources for the report who claims fermented cod liver oil caused him to contract heart disease (which in itself is a questionable claim since he is a sample size of one which is meaningless in scientific terms). In addition, by his own omission, he took excessive amounts of regular cod liver oil for many years (from 1979-2006) and then switched to fermented cod liver oil for another six years, again taking it in megadoses (1-3 Tablespoons per day … up to 9X the recommended daily dosage). This dosage equates to up to 20 teaspoons of salt or 75 glasses of water per day. Such extreme behavior that few, if any medical doctors would recommend, is not the fault of a product, but rather the fault and poor judgment of the individual taking it. It also indicates a potential lack of objectivity in the report that is concerning.
- The remainder of the report’s funding is not fully disclosed which raises another serious red flag. Were these other funding sources third parties who stand to financially gain from damaging results?
- According to a very reliable source, Dr. Daniel notified Dave Wetzel of her concerns regarding the fermented cod liver oil being rancid a year ago, and he responded with an invitation to fly her out to his facility immediately at his expense and spend as much time as she’d like to thoroughly investigate his methods. He took her concerns very seriously and had a number of tests done right away that he forwarded to her. Why Dr. Daniel didn’t respond to his efforts to address her concerns remains unanswered.
Being the professional I know her to be, Dr. Daniel would certainly understand my concerns and would welcome healthy, rigorous scrutiny of the lab work and methods used for testing. I look forward to more clarification on these issues in the coming weeks and months as well as as a point by point rebuttal by Mr. Wetzel. There are always two sides to every story.
In the meantime, given the excellent results I have observed in my own family consuming fermented cod liver oil and high vitamin butter oil for the past 9 years, I see no concrete reason to make any changes until the claims in this report have been thoroughly substantiated with complete and utter transparency. I do very much agree with Dr. Daniel that more study is warranted.
The jury is still out on this and I, for one, am not going to knee jerk and abruptly change what has been working extremely well for my family for many years along with many other families I know.
I hope this summary of my thoughts helps in some way as you decide what is best for your own family.
UPDATES
The Weston A. Price Foundation has now published a lengthy response to Dr. Daniel’s report. Click here to review it.
Also, Dr. Chris Masterjohn has published an excellent rebuttal to Dr. Daniel’s report. Click here to review it. I, for one, have now decided to stick with the fermented cod liver oil as I have for the past 9 years based on this thorough analysis!
Trans fats in FCLO? Not so fast! Here are the latest test results.
More Information
Doctor’s Orders: Why Your Family Needs Fermented Cod Liver Oil
Fermented Cod Liver Oil: Myths and Truths of an Ancient Superfood
For me Green Pasture’s Fermented Cod Liver Oil really helps my anxiety and fibromyalgia. I cannot live without it. You would think my body which is so overly senstive would give me warning signs not to take it. But, it never does it craves it!
I think it is *shameful* that some who don’t tolerate FCLO very well are obviously trying to shut the company down with false “science”, personal agendas, and even attempting to get the government involved for “fraud”. Who do these people think they are to get on their high horse and say that FCLO is inappropriate and “bad” for everyone and try to deny access for those people who desperately need it by bad mouthing and trying to bankrupt a family business with a long history of value in the marketplace. Let the naysayers take something else or nothing if they like. That is their choice! But, leave Green Pasture Products alone! There are *many* people who benefit from it and have been taking it for years (in the appropriate dosages of course). It is clear to me that this whole thing is nothing but a covert marketing operation for a competitor of FCLO that seems to think the best way to build a business is to tear down another one. Don’t fall for it people!
I completely agree. It’s like a middle school slander campaign. As someone who ferments at home, I regularly use my eyes and nose to check on my ferments. I found an older bottle of FCLO in the back of one of my cabinets and it smells and tastes fine. I tried to make this comment on a blog post bashing GP but it was deleted. No surprise.
Yes, the whole thing reeks (pun definitely intended) of the personal, not the scientific. Especially when you factor in those ridiculous, Jerry Springer type video interviews on the subject. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
her whole report is unscientific. She has done a good job at making it look like a legitimate paper, but she just cannot interpret results in an unbiased manner. I’ve done a good (if I might say so myself) analysis of her findings here: thehealthcloud.co.uk/green-pastures-rancid-report-analysis
The best is her rather wild and unfounded claims that FCLO is a cheap inport from China – where is the evidence for that?
I will continue to take FCLO. I know from my own experience how excellent it is. Before taking it I had terrible issues with plaque. After starting to use GP, my plaque issues have nearly disappeared altogether. I am firmly behind GO FCLO and WAPF. Daniels can go take a leap.
The following letter was to be posted on David Gumpert’s blog, however, Mr. Gumpert has refused to post it and has now also taken the liberty to edit other peoples posts which is completely unprofessional. Please share this information…..~Carrie
**********
I spent several hours rereading all three of Mr. Gumpert’s blog posts and accompanying comments. I replied to several, but would like to point out a few things that have not yet been said.
It is my opinion that this was a carefully orchestrated propaganda blitzkrieg which began rolling out on August 6, 2015 with the PPNF’s article “Cod Liver Oil: A Historical perspective.” About a week later, Dr. Schmid published his story “Too Much of a NOT so Good Thing;
A True Story from Dr. Ron,” in his newsletter and on his website. On August 15th Corganic posted the PPNF article on their Facebook Page and on the 20th they published “Would EVCLO be considered as “Excellent” by Weston A. Price himself?” on their website. corganic.com/blog/weston-a-price-cod-liver-oil. On August 20th Dr. Daniel publishes her article “Hook Line and Stinker,” Erin Elizabeth from Health Nut News healthnutnews.com/breaking-phd-vice-president-of-weston-price-foundation-writes-damning-report-on-fermented-cod-liver-oil/ …..and Sarah Smith from Nourished and Nurtured nourishedandnurtured.blogspot.com/2015/08/shocking-test-results-for-fermented-cod.html
All of above have ties to one another and/or Corganic. Of course, David Gumperts blog posts began on August 22nd as well.
However, the timeline and alliances really start much earlier than that. In 2009 Kaayla Daniel stayed at my house while she was in town to speak at the Farm to Table Conference in Pittsburgh. I was also a client of hers. During her visit she told me that she was very unhappy with Sally Fallon’s decision to publish “The Whole Soy Story,” and she believes that this decision caused her to lose books sales because this made the book more expensive and difficult for most to afford. Likewise, Dr. Schmid has complained to many within WAPF that he was very unhappy with some editing choices Sally made in publishing his book. But the most shocking thing she shared that weekend was her concerned over Bio-Kult, and that it may contain a strain of bacteria (streptococcus thermophilus) that could be deadly. She told me that she thought there may be a connection to Chapter Leader Deidre Welch’s sudden death from a brain aneurysm and it may have been due to the Bio-Kult she was taking. Dr. Daniel told me that another woman in North Carolina also died under similar circumstances and that Kaayla had shared her concerns with Sally Fallon. In recent conversations, Sally (and other board members) confirmed that Kaayla did approach her about Bio-Kult with the premise that it may be related to Deidre’s death, as well as a women in North Carolina which Kaayla never did name. Kaayla even contacted Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride, but with no documentation to back up her claim.
I knew Deidre, back when she was Deidre Currie. She was amazing and absolutely gorgeous; we were all devastated by her loss. I never heard anything more about issues with Bio-Kult and just assumed that they were not able to find any direct link, but my family and I did, for some time, discontinue using Bio-Kult because of Kaayla’s expressed concerns over this product.
I think it is important to point out that Diedre’s husband is a co-founder of Corganic. I had never looked at their website until this controversy over Green Pasture Products FCLO erupted and I find interesting that Corganic also sells a probiotic. On their website, they state that their product does not contain “unwanted additives” such as cellulose, soy, milk and specifically that “No strains that are reported to cause reactions (e.g. streptococcus thermophilus, etc).” All of which are contained in Bio-Kult. There are some associations here that I feel are more than coincidental.
Continuing… on 1/14/03 Sarah Smith of Nourished and Nurtured, who was mentioned earlier and advertises Corganic on her website, published her first blog degrading GPP in favor of Corganic in a post titled “Why We Stopped Taking Fermented Cod Liver Oil.” nourishedandnurtured.blogspot.com/2013/01/why-we-stopped-taking-fermented-cod.html
Sometime in March 2015 (I don’t recall exactly) Dave Wetzel contacted me about accusations Dr. Daniel had made about his products. He told me that he offered to fly Kaayla up to his facility, all expenses paid, so that she could get a better understanding of his manufacturing process, but that she never responded to his offer. He was devastated by the accusations and began sending samples out immediately for testing. I had not heard anything further about any of this until the blitzkrieg began, culminating in the release of the Dr. Daniel’s “Hook Line and Stinker.” It took me a week to finally finish reading her venomous article which made me physically ill to read.
So about now you are wondering what my connection is to GPP, so here’s it is.
I became a WAPF Chapter Leader in 2004. A year later I started a business selling nutrient dense foods, including GPP Blue Ice Cod Liver Oil (before FCLO had been developed), Celtic Sea Salt and Nature’s Blessings Coconut Oil, etc. In 2010, I couldn’t afford to pay for the Wise Traditions Conference so I asked Dave Wetzel if he needed any help at his booth. Dave had always been very helpful to me in explaining his products, but I knew the best place to learn would be standing at the booth so that I could to listen to him answer questions, and ask a few of my own. My daughter Katie, came along and sold raffle tickets all weekend, along with Dave’s daughter, for the Alaska trip that the Wetzels donated to the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund. My daughters and I have done this every year since.
A couple years later, after a series of difficult moves for my family, I decided to close my business. Shortly after that, and without knowing what I had decided, Dave asked if I could work for him to handle product questions. It is a very, very part time job, and I was only contracted with them for one year. Since then, I am happy to put in a few hours throughout the year so that I might attend one of the best conferences of the year, as one of his helpers at the Green Pasture booth.
I would also like to point out that I am no longer a WAPF Chapter Leader for the Pittsburgh Area, which I had done for 10 years. Nor am I even a member. I made this decision in the spring of 2014, just a year and a half after receiving the Activist Award at the 2012 Wise Tradition Conference, when my activism began pulling me away from spreading the great information provided by the WAPF, and I began shifting my focus toward protecting my family and my organic farm from the dangers of natural gas extraction, or fracking. We may have differences of opinion on certain topics, and it can take time to work through disagreements, but I will not throw the baby out with the bath water and I fully support their position on this cod liver oil debate.
It is no secret that the PPNF has been at odds with the WAPF. Anyone who has been involved with this organization as long as I have is no doubt aware of their strained relationship. In my opinion, the timing of the release of the PPNF article, followed shortly after with Facebook posts by Corganic, is highly suspect. This is a direct attack against GPP, although not quite as blatant as the language used in a publication Corganic intended to distribute at the 2012 WT conference in Santa Clara, CA. Sally insisted that they remove the publication as they would not tolerate any company bashing another to increase their own bottom line. Copies are still available if you would like to see one.
It’s really not hard to connect the dots. A few internet searches will verify everything I have said. I am so deeply disappointed by the actions of the people involved in all of this and I am devastated for the Wetzel Family. They are the nicest and most generous people I know. Dave worked very hard on his products and believed in what he had learned from the WAPF; that there were traditional methods to so many food preparations and he discovered that cod liver oil was no exception. He has released as much as he can, as far as manufacturing and testing, but he has a recipe to protect! For crying out loud!!! The accusations that he has not been forthcoming are so unfair. People in this community have been quick to judge and point fingers, yet no one has taken into consideration that he has a lot of time and money invested in his product, and he has the right hold some proprietary secrets.
I hope this community will take a step back and take a look at the key players in this propaganda campaign. Some of you have been unwitting accomplices promoting lies that all originate from the same source.
Those commenters who want to limit the discussion of FCLO to the “scientific facts” given to us by Daniel in her “expose” have been shown by Carrie that politics are inseparable from discussing the merits or demerits of FCLO. The political background Carrie presents shows that the intent of GPs competitors is to put GP our of business. Having one less source from whom to purchase CLO is not a good thing for consumers who want health products that are made the traditional way.
In the Wise Traditions Winter Q, WAPF will give us a non-hysterical presentation of all the scientific facts we need to know in order to make a decision about whether or not to use FCLO. Science doesn’t yet have answers to the questions we are demanding answers to, but I know enough right now to judge the merits of Daniel’s “expose”, and it receives a big Thumbs Down from me.
Hi Sarah, I believe I had seen you mention, at some point, that you refuse to eat anything out of Alaska? The wild caught salmon our family purchases is from Alaska and I am curious what the issue there is? Thank you!
Ken
I don’t eat Alaskan salmon anymore … only Atlantic salmon. However, I recently muscle tested the GPP fermented cod liver oil and it turned out fine for me, so I will continue to use it.
I thought Atlantic salmon was farm-rasied. Where do you buy your salmon?
I get wild salmon from Scotland.
Sarah, thanks for an excellent summary of the situation. I appreciate the care you took to be thorough, fair, and keep it about the facts, not the personalities. I’ve been going through all the blog posts and statements and Facebook comments on this issue, and this is one of the best articles I’ve read. For those interested in looking at some of the more technical aspects of testing fats and lipid biochemistry, Chris Kresser wrote up an excellent post recently as well.
Brava, Sarah! I, too, am waiting to see what’s what. More information is what we need, not rushing to judgment, especially on the wings of a problematic report with its own dubious methodology.
I believe full disclosure of charitable donations may give us more answers than the all this squabling. I’d like to know if Green Pasture donates to WAPF? Where the money came from for ALL the lab testing?
Bonnie, if you click the link to the WAPF response above at the end of the article, this is answered in great detail. As for Dr. Daniel, she has said she won’t disclose all of her funding sources other than Dr. Ron’s.
The Weston A. Price Foundation has posted their response, in a great Q&A with Sally Fallon Morell. It is in full support of Dave Wetzel, Green Pasture, and their FCLO products. Of course it is at the same time invalidating Dr. Daniel’s report. I love the response, and I think it adds a lot of good insights:
http://www.westonaprice.org/uncategorized/questions-and-answers-about-fermented-cod-liver-oil-fclo/#comment-251019
There is nothing in that response that I disagree with (not that my opinion matters), except for perhaps her use of the word ‘stinky.’ 🙂
Enjoy your FCLO everyone 🙂
I think we need to remember that not all people digest and absorb fats like Cod Liver oil equally. If they have a high toxin load they may have problems with fat metabolism. I have had that experience and have seen it in others. If you are taking something or eating something to increase your detoxification it can often cause gallbladder /liver stress and you need to back off taking cod liver oil for a while. That was my case and i now take Nature’s Answer, recommended by the Foundation. It is lemon lime flavored and delicious. I have been seeing health improvements, with my higher vitamin A levels, including better hearing and better skin.
Janice Alexandria WAPF chapter leader
I am so glad you commented Janice. You are so right. NOT EVERYONE CAN TAKE FCLO! I have never been able to tolerate FCLO. I was told by friends, who got great results, to get the HVBO so I could get better absorption but even that did not help. I have a history of autoimmune issues, bowel issues, hypothyroidism, chronic fatigue, etc. so I finally invested in a integrative holistic practitioner and found out I have the MTHFR gene mutation, leaky gut, yeast overgrowth, and a whole slew of other issues. What this means is my toxic load is through the roof so as you stated above, I cannot handle the fat metabolism and stress on my gut.
My mom always tells me how my grandparents took CLO faithfully and they lived well into their 90’s with little health issues. I also remember reading a blog article from a woman who took the GP CLO (and loved it!) and was forced to buy the FCLO when they stopped making CLO and hated it. She ended up buying a different brand of CLO. I plan to purchase the Nature’s Answer brand now thanks to your comment! I really need the Vit A. I can’t seem to get enough due to my absorption issues. Thanks for your insights!
Wow! How exciting. Naughty naughty Dr. Daniels, who paid for your 5 tests if each test is $10,000. If I remember correctly in the “Oiling Of America” Sally said, “follow the money”, and I wonder where that trail will lead? Rosita? Dr. Ron, who so happens to run 10 miles a day, very stressful to the heart, poor man seems to go overboard on every thing.
I took my FCLO and HVBO this morning and will continue to do so with the same confidence I had when I started 9 years ago after I did my own due diligence. I called David on Monday and he answered all of my questions with out hesitation. I suggested he put out a video of the Argentina farm, a family farm for 120 years.
Time is your real money and Dr. Daniels has really put out a stinky time waster.
I look forward to how David will respond to this challenge, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
But the WAPF paid too have testing too. As did Green Pastures. Why is it eeeevil for Dr. Daniel to pay for testing, but not the others, Ann?
Because Dr. D did not reveal WHO paid for the tests. WAPF is transparent. Dr. D is keeping secrets. It matters WHO is paying for the attack on Green Pasture. And it matters WHY Dr. D is keeping her funding a secret. Doesn’t it? Something is rotten, and it’s not FLCO.
The unprofessional tone of the report and the manner in which it was released reveals much about the true intent IMO.
This line of argument is damaging to WAPF, Judy. Outsiders see defensiveness based in clear bias. How is revealing or not revealing sources going to affect the scientific arguments? Generally speaking it wont. For example, no technical criticism that Daniels made would magically switch from “true” to “false” (or vice versa) were the funding sources revealed. I’m surprised that you guys are embarrassed to be focusing on these kinds of ad hominem methods… one thing Dr. Daniels largely avoided, despite many pot shots about here “tone” — a red flag in these sorts of arguments. if the sources are revealed it will just make WAPF look worse.
The answer is to get to the bottom of the scientific concerns raised. Chris Kressers article takes this approach.
chriskresser.com/separating-fact-from-fiction-on-cod-liver-oil/
While I found some comfort in some of the points where he argued against, or at least moderated, Dr. Daniels points. But I think it’s worth pointing out that he also underscored some of here concerns, and switched to non-fermented oil some time ago.
Chris Masterjohn’s recent article also focuses on the science, to his credit. Unfortunately Masterjohn also has a conflict of interest. This is not a moral failing, it’s just a fact. The article is still worth reading, and I believe he has approached it in an intellectually honest way.
I found even more comfort in reading this article, but I think it’s hardly the final word and it does not allow me (or Chris, I think) to dismiss all of the concerns Daniels raised.
Further, now know that WAPF has the sort of financial relationship that is unacceptable for an organization that is funding research. It’s known that these kinds of relationships bias organizations. It’s clear that WAPF has such a relationship — regardless of where the science ends up, their ability to maintain objectivity is compromised. By contrast we do not know that Dr. Daniel has such as relationship (although I admit, it seems likely, many Doctors could afford such tests on their personal salary).
Ad hominem attacks, questioning motives and tone is damaging to all participants. I read through this thread and read a lot of logical fallicies and defensiveness, not stopping with ad hominem and criticism of tone/”professionalness” etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
This is natural for humans, and I think, especially in a community that contains many people who could be described as fundamentalists, in a certain sense (I do not mean this as a criticism). But by rising above it I think everyone will benefit more.
I don’t believe it’s wrong for financially motivated people on either side of the debate to introduce criticism, nor to do tests. Using multiple third party labs goes a long way towards addressing their bias, and Kresser appears to be correct that many such lab contracts prevent revealing the source. Focusing on these aspects sullies the people who do it.
Sarah, I want to state that I appreciate your long-term and current efforts on this blog. It is honorable and admirable to let people on all sides make all kinds of criticisms. Thanks!
Let me clarify that Chris Masterjohn has no conflict of interest. As an Honorary Board member of the WAPF, he gets no pay and both Rosita AND GPP are exhibitors at the WAPF Conferences. Chris Kresser would have one though as he sells GPP on his website and also other brands which he recommends. Although, to be fair, the amount of money he makes from that is likely trivial and likely does not in any way affect his views.
Also, if you read the WAPF rebuttal statement to Dr. Daniel’s “report”, you will see detailed how GPP affects the bottom of line of the WAPF balance sheet .. essentially little to no effect. The WAPF doesn’t need GPP and in fact recommended the product long before GPP ever became a vendor at Conferences.
I too want the truth about the benefits of CLO and FCLO and therefore welcome this debate. Those of us who are using the GP product want confirmation that we are using the best product on the market. Most of us, including me, are not scientists specializing in lipids, nor are we marine biologists, and so we base our opinion on how the product works for us, and what objective experts – this excludes Daniel – say about it. .
That said, in looking at the reports from WAPF, Wetzel, Masterjohn, and Daniel, I’m paying no attention to the “facts” Daniel presents because of the manner in which she presented her report and the sensationalist tone. Both of these reasons tarnish her message. I have NO confidence in what she has written. I DO have confidence in what WAPF and Masterjohn and others, whom I consider to be rational “truth seekers”, have to say. WAPF will be presenting a thorough report on this issue in the Wise Traditions Winter Quarterly, which I am patiently awaiting. Again, I want the truth, but Daniel’s “truth” is too riddled with “conflicts of interest” to take her word as anything other than muck racking journalism..
I would suggest getting muscle tested Judy. This is what I did to confirm what I already suspected … the fermented cod liver oil is the best choice for me. The other virgin cod liver oils tested much worse.
Bill, Sally Fallon reveals that the income received from Green Pastures (for when Green Pastures sponsors at a WAPF conference) totals about 1.1% of their annual budget. It’s hard to believe that “following the money” in this case would result in anything subversive. WAPF has been very forward about this (transparent) but Dr. Daniels is not. Read more about it here: http://www.westonaprice.org/uncategorized/questions-and-answers-about-fermented-cod-liver-oil-fclo/