Day 6 of The Milk Cure has come and gone. What are your observations? It seems we have at least 50-100 folks participating from the regular comment updates with more joining in every day.
Hey CDC – what’s up with all these people drinking nothing but raw milk from these various small farms across the world and not getting food poisoning?
Some of the participants have made the personal decision to join in despite being immune-compromised as well. If raw milk is as dangerous as you say, at least a few of us should be hospitalized by now with E. coli O157.
Could it be (gasp), that raw milk is actually an extremely safe food? No worries, though. I’m sure you can easily figure out a way to spin it to the advantage of your Sugar Daddies (Big Food and Big Pharma) which guarantee you a nice cushy, six figure consulting job when your government gig is up.
Lucky for you most people are so drugged up on prescription meds that they can’t think straight anyway.
Paula: Hmmm, slept ok but awakened very early and could not get back to sleep. Had a hectic weekend trying to play catch up with all the remedial computer issues still pending. It’s a shame you can’t shoot them! Anyway, did finally get to have a nice hot salts bath. Soaked for about an hour. For the first time since starting the fast I was “slightly irritable” and tired yesterday and it continues this morning.
Had a good workout at noon and a very enjoyable milk lunch with Sarah in the sunshine. Felt much better the rest of the day but was pretty fatigued and experienced chills and overall joint achiness right before going to bed. I cannot remember the last time I was chilled unless it related to cold weather. Consumed 14 cups and weighed in at 117.6.
Richard: Worked a full day and had good energy. Drank 5-6 cups of milk throughout the day. It feels like I could go on like this for weeks with no problem.
Have little to no hunger with all detox symptoms gone at least for the moment. Am really glad I am doing this. What a great seasonal cleanse that helps gently heal the body and preserve health with little to no stress and strain.
Sarah: Woke up sneezing about 6 am and the sneezing continued off and on until about lunchtime. I don’t ever remember sneezing so much in such a short period of time. Figured it must be another method of detoxing so just kept sneezing and kept a hankie handy at all times!
Felt great all day with good energy. Have settled on a gallon of milk per day and this seems to work well as long as I finish drinking by 7pm and then I don’t get up at night to use the bathroom from drinking so many liquids.
Sat out in the sun at lunchtime with Paula to celebrate the halfway point of the fast. We laughed and drank our raw milk and had a great time.
Not feeling hungry and everything except for the sneezing is normal. Really starting to want to eat again though. I am looking forward to being done in the next few days!
Joyce S.
Here is my weight report. Just a recap(from 2/29), I am a sugar addict. I was seriously in a sick place and started this to get me out of my junk food rut. I started a day early because I joined a ‘biggest loser’ contest at my gym and the weigh-ins are on Weds. The week before the fast I had joined the contest but was in my sick place and unable to get out – physical cravings, emotional dependence, spiritual rebellion – quite a mess and no will power. I gained 6 pounds that week and was definitely on a roll. I was trying to figure out what I would do to escape the nightmare. I didn’t want to do something that would mess my system up even more but I couldn’t figure out what. Then the posts about the milk fast came and I had hope. That weigh-in day I began the challenge(2/29) and today’s weigh-in showed a loss of 8 pounds for my first week on the milk fast. I say my first week because, at this point, I am hoping to continue for another week. I have plenty of weight to lose, and I have the means of getting milk (see post on 2/29). The story of the brave woman who has gone over 100 days gives me courage to think that I can make it another week but I just have to take it ‘one day at a time’ like they say in AA.
D.
I wonder if those of you having constipation issues should be taking at least 200 mg of magnesium every day? Is that allowed? Also, maybe adding a bit of sea salt to your milk would help with the constipation and also allow for a slightly different taste – for a change of pace for those of you who are bored with the plain milk?
If you plan to do the milk fast again, maybe everyone should have some magnesium OIL on hand (rub into your skin thus bypassing the internal digestion circuit).
Just thinkin’ out loud here . . .
Melissa
A friend was just telling me about magnesium oil today! She puts it on the bottoms of her feet. It absorbs quickly and gets to her system quickly, too 🙂
Theresa B
Went to pick up more milk yesterday at the grocery store and the shelf was empty! In hindsight, I have probably messed up their algorithm for how many jugs of raw milk to stock but I guess I’m so used to buying pasteurized milk that it didn’t occur to me a store would run out of milk! Had a normal dinner and savored every bite, but am now curious if any progress I had made is null and void? Is today day one again? (Assuming there is new milk) Don’t really know the theory or science behind cleanses…
Yesterday morning and afternoon went fine! Milk when hungry, mint tea or mint water when thirsty.
Kate S.
I am curious to know where you live where you can buy raw milk at the store? We can only buy it from a certified farm, though I thank God I live near a certified farm and that my State seemingly has no problem with raw milk farmers.
Elise
South Carolina allows raw milk to be sold in a store. Only a few health food stores carry it that I know of
Sierra
Jackie- I absolutely love the sound of that 🙂
Today is my first day of the raw milk fast. So far I have had 1 cup and my other is warming to room temp right now. I started my day with 24 oz of water, which gave me a great energizing and full start to the day. I’ll try to do around 80 oz to keep myself feeling satisfied. I chose to continue with my regular supplements today, however not sure If I will use them throughout the entire fast. Last night I got 9 hours of sleep, so I am already feeling amazing. I will do my best to rest just as much tonight, too!
Yolanda
Gesundheit!
Jackie
Oh and one more thing. Here in the North we CRAVE sunshine (plans are in the making for moving south soon as we DO NOT like the weather here) Anyways, told my 4 year old about putting sunshine on our bellies and he LOVED the idea. We can’t do it outside so we lay in front of the window in the sunshine with the baby and sing song with our bellies exposed 😉 thanks for the great idea and whether it works or not we feel so much better after! happy!
Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
Through the window won’t work I don’t believe 🙁
Windows block a portion of the sun spectrum (it definitely blocks UVB rays). Do it as soon as you can get direct (ideally midday) sun on you outside with no clouds.
Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
Yes, and I understand the craving sunshine thing. When I was in Philadelphia going to school, I couldn’t believe how cloudy it was for weeks on end. Couldn’t stand it being from the South and raised on the beach practically. I literally packed up my car the night before my final exam, and as soon as my tests were done, skipped town back to Florida. I had job offers in the Northeast for twice what I got offered in Florida, but I wanted the sun more than money so I was outta there as fast as I could go.
Nicole, The Non-Toxic Nurse
I am from the North. I had the chance to live in Florida for nine months when I was 22. It took me five years to get back to the South, but I finally got here. I live in the Greenville, SC area now. I am here to stay! I cannot do dark and dreary ever again! Check out the Greenville, SC area, Jackie. It has all you could want and the cost of living is very low:-) http://www.greenvillesc.gov/ We love it here!
Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
GO PALADINS!!!!!!! My alma mater (Furman) is in Greenville 🙂
The cold never bothered me as much as the lack of sun. I think I would be fine in Colorado where it is sunny in the winter. Philly was sooooo gloomy though. I know some folks love that though.
Terrie Schultz
I live in the mountains of Northern Utah and the sun shines here A LOT as well, similar to Colorado (I lived there for 5 yrs)
Jackie
I wondered about the windows blocking out the rays. there have been some days that we opened the window and were able to get straight sun but be in the warm house and out of the wind (which is CRAZY these past few days!)
I should have been raised on the beach! lol! Although after learning more about health I see some that might just be health issues. Cold all the time and not much energy on the blah days. Feeling better after changing our diet but all of us are ready to head south. Actually I am trying to feel good enough to put the house up for sale. Nicole, my husband has office in McDonough GA so we will have to settle there for now but SO much better then 40 mins from Chicago!!!! BRRRR!!!! and crappy air quality!
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist
I got Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) living in Philly. WAs so used to higher vit D levels from growing up in FL that the drop in vit D messed me up big time. Wasn’t taking cod liver oil at the time though so maybe if I’d had that would have tolerated the cloudiness better.
Kate S.
I have old windows, not the modern ones that block every bit of everything the sun offers except light. Even if I don’t get the full benefit, i think laying in a sunbeam would be a great thing to try. After all, my dog is smart enough to find a sunbeam and lay in it! I live in Upstate, NY, and the lack of sunshine does bother me as winter drags on. Usually, when we do have sunshine in the winter, it is accompanied by bitter cold, so even if you do go outside to face the sun, you’re usually bundled from head to toe! Moving south isn’t an option for us. But, even the placebo affect of sunshine is better than none at all.
Nicole, The Non-Toxic Nurse
Georgia is nice too:-)
Jackie
sarah,
sorry for the change of subject but would it be better for a beginner to buy the GAPS guide or the actual GAPS syndrome book? Not 100% sure I am going to do it as I DO NOT do well on no grains. I can get by with a little but when I cut them totally out I get a lot of body aches, pains and other stuff. I am interested in it though because I KNOW I have gut issues among other things. Thanks!
Nicole, The Non-Toxic Nurse
Hi, Jackie. I know you had directed your question towards Sarah, but I wanted to share my experience with the GAPS book vs. the GAPS Guide. I hope Sarah won’t mind. My family is currently on GAPS and I own both books. If you like to know exactly why you are doing what you are doing, right down to the pathophysiology, and you like to read, then you definitely want to buy the GAPS book. If you are short on time, hate reading long books, and just want to get started, then you will want to read the GAPS Guide and use the GAPSdiet.com website. I read the GAPS book first, but, being that I had no experience whatsoever with traditional cooking, and had no idea where to start, I bought the GAPS Guide. After reading the GAPS Guide, I can tell you that there is not much in there that you cannot find within Sarah’s videos or on the GAPSdiet.com website. It is like the “Cliff’s Notes” to the GAPS book in my opinion. I also thinks that it leaves out some very important points that folks on GAPS should know. When my husband and I have questions we tend to go to the GAPS book and not the GAPS Guide book. I put narrow “Post-It” tabs in my GAPS book for frequently referenced sections. Hope this helps:-) They are expensive books. GAPS has helped my family immeasurably.
Jackie
thanks so much for all the info! that helps a ton!!!! good luck to you and your family on this venture!
Nicole, The Non-Toxic Nurse
Your are very welcome:-)
Jackie
and yes, you are right. you can learn so so so much awesome info from Sarah’s info. she has been a HUGE blessing to us and our extended family! THANKS SARAH!!!
Rick
Day 8. I decided to go to 10 days instead of my initial plan of 15 days. On day 11 I will start to slowly bring in other foods.
Did CrossFit this morning at 6AM and felt pretty good. Constipation isn’t nearly as bad. As of this morning I am down 7 LBs.
Lindsey
I have a quick question if anyone wouldn’t mind answering. I am seriously considering a raw milk fast as well. Then, hubby and I watched Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead, and I’m inspired to do a juice fast as well. I have adrenal burn-out issues, so I was wondering what would happen if I combined the two, and did a juice fast with raw milk included (or a raw milk fast w/ juicing included) for 10 days. I don’t want to just juice because I know my adrenals need the fat, but I do want to lose 10-12 pounds. Any comments are appreciated!
Susan
@Lindsey- As someone who has been down and out from adrenal issues for three years now -I’m talkin’ house-bound- I have spent a lot of time reading about all things adrenal and all the other hormones, as well. As much as I can relate to your desire to lose weight, I really don’t think that doing a fast is the best thing for you right now. It is imperative that you heal your hormones first and then try to lose the weight later. I know this is frustrating. I have been a size six my entire life and now I can hardly squeeze into a 14. But when our adrenals are fried, it is taking them everything they’ve got to keep going. They are like a faithful old horse: They will keep plugging along until they have nothing left to give, and then just stop. And without your adrenals, you die. You can be short on any other hormone in the body, which would make you feel like poop, but you would survive, but without your adrenals, life ends. I’m NOT telling you this to scare the crap out of you, but to let you know that if your adrenals are in a weakened state, doing something stressful, like a fast, may make you crash even harder and make you feel even worse or slow down your recovery.
I now realize that I have suffered from adrenal issues for most of my adult life, but this last crash has been the most horrendous experience I have ever lived through. The first year I was told to stay in bed and do nothing or I would have a heart attack. I’m better now- although no where near my old self yet- but because this has been so horrible for me I suppose I am like a mama bear when I see someone on the side of the cliff wanting to do something risky. And right now, this would be risky for you!
Believe me, once I am healed, I will be all over this milk fast because I adore raw milk. But for now I must let those teeny, tiny, walnut size glands make the rules. And as dramatic as it may sound, my life depends on it.
Louise
Susan,
I just met with my doctor today and discussed the raw milk fast. She was curious as to why I chose this and I explained that raw milk has all of the fat, protein and nutrients that I would need. I too have adrenal issues; however, not to the extent that you described. Mine came about after treating my hypothyroidism; they tend to go hand-in-hand. At any rate, my doctor was of the thought that if I drank enough not to let my blood sugar drop, my adrenals should be happy.
I tend to think a juice fast would be too much sugar and not enough fat or protein to make my adrenals happy.
Elise
I was wondering the same thing..juice/raw milk fast?
Leslie
Am a little behind you guys on the milk fast. Had been reading about the benefits, and was able to obtain milk prior to March 1, but on the advice of my farmer, took a few days to acclimate my system to the product before I went “cold turkey”.
Am on my 3rd day, and have found it very hard to drink even 2 quarts per day. I am just not hungry. I am trying to make certain to drink 2 cups at least 3-4 times daily. — I have noticed some elimination “issues”, and am wondering if it is because I don’t have enough in my bowels to process? The only other thing I have had is water, and I am trying to drink at least my normal 2 quarts of water per day as well. I am quite overweight, and am hoping to lose as a part of my fast, so I have not been concerned with the fact that I am not drinking as much. should I be?
I find myself wanting “something” just to have a “taste” in my mouth as the milk & water have virtually no flavor. So far this has been my hardest struggle.
I am new to this whole lifestyle, and welcome any advice or suggestions.
Lindsey
Leslie, I would say that if you’re not hungry, listen to your body and don’t drink anything. If you’re craving a “taste”, have you tried kombucha? I prefer kombucha to water now. As long as you’re staying hydrated, whether by milk, water, kombucha, or tea, I’m sure you’ll be fine. If you’re new to this lifestyle it’s likely that your mind is trying to pull you back into your old lifestyle. Sometimes our minds don’t like to cooperate even when our bodies know something is good for us. Keep pluggin’ along!